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some financial experts say the bigger issue is an out of control federal deficit. and that part of the deal still needs to be address the. >>> u.s. stock prices higher on this final day of the year. the dow industrials rose 156 points, the nasdaq was up 59. the markets had been flat all morning, but climbed after the president's remarks that a deal seemed close at hand. 2012 seemed to be a positive year for the markets overall. the dow was up 7%. s & s & p 500 15% and the nasdaq went up nearly 16% higher than when it started. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is in the hospital treating a blood clot. doctors say she did not suffer a stroke and expect her to make a full recovery. however clots are potentially serious if not treated. they can lead to a hemorrhage inside the brain. it's believed this blood clot is related to the concussion secretary of state clinten suffered earlier this month. >>> the accident happened near the ma colome river bridge on highway 12 east of rio vista. first reports of the accident came in 9:15 this evening. highway 12 is closed in
some financial experts say the bigger issue is an out of control federal deficit. and that part of the deal still needs to be address the. >>> u.s. stock prices higher on this final day of the year. the dow industrials rose 156 points, the nasdaq was up 59. the markets had been flat all morning, but climbed after the president's remarks that a deal seemed close at hand. 2012 seemed to be a positive year for the markets overall. the dow was up 7%. s & s & p 500 15% and the...
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boehner issued a statement that says republicans have made every effort to reach the balanced deficit agreement that the president promised the american people. we've been reasonable and responsible. the president is the one who has never been able to get to yes. >> what the people reelected me for is to put together a -- >>> the dairy cliff may not see a vote before 2013. leaders from the house and senate agricultural committees agreed to a one year extension of the farm bill. but there's been no time to get a full vote. without passage of the bill, milk prices could rise sharply. estimates are that a gallon of milk could go up to $8 a gallon. >>> prices for just about everything in california are about to go up. coming up at 10:30, what's behind the price increases and when you'll have to stay parting more. >>> tonight doctors in new york are treating secretary of state hillary clinton for a blood clot. her spokesman said hillary clinton's doctors discovered the clot during a follow up exam. mrs.clinton was immediately admitted into a new york hospital where doctors will monitor her
boehner issued a statement that says republicans have made every effort to reach the balanced deficit agreement that the president promised the american people. we've been reasonable and responsible. the president is the one who has never been able to get to yes. >> what the people reelected me for is to put together a -- >>> the dairy cliff may not see a vote before 2013. leaders from the house and senate agricultural committees agreed to a one year extension of the farm bill....
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. >> "unless we do something about spending, the government will continue to get bigger and the deficit will continue to get bigger." >> reporter: following the president's interview, speaker of the statement saying in part: "republicans made every effort to reach the 'balanced' deficit agreement that the president promised the american people.we've been reasonable and responsible. the president is the one who has never been able to get to 'yes.'" >> "what i ran on, and what the american people elected me to do, was to put forth a balanced approach." >> reporter: despite the on- going blame game, there is consensus on one thing: time is running out. i'm elizabeth corridan reporting. >>> many people are unhappy that a long standing tradition is about to be a thing of the past in san francisco. parking meters will no longer be free on sundays starting in january. kron4's maureen kelly explains how the new parking enforcement plan will work. >> reporter: time is running out for free parking on sunday. starting january 6th the city's nearly 30-thousand meters will start accepting cash and c
. >> "unless we do something about spending, the government will continue to get bigger and the deficit will continue to get bigger." >> reporter: following the president's interview, speaker of the statement saying in part: "republicans made every effort to reach the 'balanced' deficit agreement that the president promised the american people.we've been reasonable and responsible. the president is the one who has never been able to get to 'yes.'" >>...
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this became 2011, when it came to we had the demanded that it reduce the deficit. because of the debt ceiling without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. democrats, republicans, wanted a stricter tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost the american it is trouble a credit rating in the first time in history. at the last moment, they both agreed to a trillion dollars in spending cuts and 1.2 trillion to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if this cannot be reached, this automatic across-the-board cuts as the sequester would go into effect starting january, 2013. at the exact moment when the abortion-era tax cuts required-bush-era tax cuts could have been expired like they did two years ago but once we often got drowned out by seemingly endless and continuous elections in america. this time, there could be a serious price to pay for it. >> another developing story tonightrussian authorities say a fifth person has died from yesterday's plane crash in moscow. she was a flight atten
this became 2011, when it came to we had the demanded that it reduce the deficit. because of the debt ceiling without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. democrats, republicans, wanted a stricter tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost the american it is trouble a credit rating in the first time in history. at the last moment, they both agreed to a trillion dollars in spending cuts and 1.2 trillion to be decided by a special congressional super committee....
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some financial experts say the bigger issue is an out of control federal deficit. and that part of the deal still needs to be address the. >>> u.s. stock prices higher on this final day of the year. the dow industrials rose 156 points, the nasdaq was up 59. the markets had been flat all morning, but climbed after the president's remarks that a deal seemed close at hand. 2012 seemed to be a positive year for the markets overall. the dow was up 7%. s & s & p 500 15% and the nasdaq went up nearly 16% higher than when it started. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is in the hospital treating a blood clot. doctors say she did not suffer a stroke and expect her to make a full recovery. however clots are potentially serious if not treated. they can lead to a hemorrhage inside the brain. it's believed this blood clot is related to the concussion secretary of state clinten suffered earlier this month. >>> the accident happened near the ma colome river bridge on highway 12 east of rio vista. first reports of the accident me i9:15 this evening. highway 12 is closed in the
some financial experts say the bigger issue is an out of control federal deficit. and that part of the deal still needs to be address the. >>> u.s. stock prices higher on this final day of the year. the dow industrials rose 156 points, the nasdaq was up 59. the markets had been flat all morning, but climbed after the president's remarks that a deal seemed close at hand. 2012 seemed to be a positive year for the markets overall. the dow was up 7%. s & s & p 500 15% and the...
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the president said to take action on deficit reduction in the next few months and more tax revenue could be involved in those discussions but republicans are furious at that possibility. >> i'm willing to support revenues to deal with this overall problem but what i will not agree to using revenues to replace spending reductions. >> reporter: even in the senate approves the deal by midnight, the house has to pass it. >>> once the deal is done, what will it mean to you and your family's finances? cbs 5 reporter grace lee with the consequences of a compromise. >> reporter: this deal is not official until both houses pass it and it's signed by the president. outlined at this point it's clear at least when it comes to your taxes. so most middle and low-income families should be spared the bulk of those tax increases. but most of us are going to be paying something extra to the irs in 2013. >> keep in mind just last month republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. obviously the agreement is currently being discussed would raise those ra
the president said to take action on deficit reduction in the next few months and more tax revenue could be involved in those discussions but republicans are furious at that possibility. >> i'm willing to support revenues to deal with this overall problem but what i will not agree to using revenues to replace spending reductions. >> reporter: even in the senate approves the deal by midnight, the house has to pass it. >>> once the deal is done, what will it mean to you and...
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. >> with the deficit ticking higher -- >> it's disgusting. >> miss ing in all the last minute negotiations is talk of the 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into effect tuesday. >> the fiscal cliff count down is the big topic on this morning's fogs the morning -- face the nation. there's two big visitors. it starts right after this newscast at 8:30 on cbs 5. >>> plastic shopping bags may soon be the fast. >> the final 2 days for those bags in an entire bay area county. >> a 2012 close, a look back at some of the big stories in the usa. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as the new year begins tues the new ban appl >>> 20 minutes before 8:00. one of the biggest counties is jumping on the plastic bag ban. the new ban applies to all of alameda county. the incorporated areas and all of its cities also. stores will no longer be able to give customers one time use plastic bags. customers must bring their own bags or pay 10 cents each for a recyclable paper bag. similar laws are in effect in san jose, san francisco and dozens of other california cities and counties. san jose
. >> with the deficit ticking higher -- >> it's disgusting. >> miss ing in all the last minute negotiations is talk of the 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into effect tuesday. >> the fiscal cliff count down is the big topic on this morning's fogs the morning -- face the nation. there's two big visitors. it starts right after this newscast at 8:30 on cbs 5. >>> plastic shopping bags may soon be the fast. >> the final 2 days for those...
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we do know that we have a deficit that's not yet been resolved. we do know that we have the sequestration on all those cuts that are simply waiting for us to deal with. and we have a debt limit and the funding of government. all of that is going to come together in february or early march. so it's likely to be a difficult spring here in washington. >> thank you, congressman for joining us live on washington, d.c. >> good luck. >> thank you. happy new year to california. >> happy new year. >>> well, about a million people from all over the world got the times square treatment as new york's huge crystal ball dropped into the new year. a lot of kissing going on, too. one of the panels on the ball had ding clark's -- dick clark's name engraved on it. this was the first new year's celebration since the host died this past year. >> here back at home no fog this year to block out the fireworks. it's beautiful, huh? it was a perfectly clear night. the fireworks along the waterfront that shot from treasure island looks like. a lot of people showed up for a
we do know that we have a deficit that's not yet been resolved. we do know that we have the sequestration on all those cuts that are simply waiting for us to deal with. and we have a debt limit and the funding of government. all of that is going to come together in february or early march. so it's likely to be a difficult spring here in washington. >> thank you, congressman for joining us live on washington, d.c. >> good luck. >> thank you. happy new year to california....
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they said almost every day, at the top of the list is, deficit. get the deficit under control. until we actually did it in the 1990's. and why did i have this single- minded focus? i have always understood, the most important responsibility of government is economic security of the people. if you do not have your fiscal affairs in order -- we learned in the economic downturns in my state, the debt to work for you. it can also question. -- the debt can work for you. it can also crush you. i do not want to see the country go through the same kinds of problems. my family lived through the great depression in the 1930's. it exacted a terrible toll on the people in my state. i have always been very focused on economic growth, economic opportunity, and being responsible with the resources that you have. >> we a frequently heard from the republican candidate but this country could become like greece. do you see that as a possibility? >> no. it is a profoundly different situation. i do see the possibility that we could have debt that would truly be harmful. the congressional budget off
they said almost every day, at the top of the list is, deficit. get the deficit under control. until we actually did it in the 1990's. and why did i have this single- minded focus? i have always understood, the most important responsibility of government is economic security of the people. if you do not have your fiscal affairs in order -- we learned in the economic downturns in my state, the debt to work for you. it can also question. -- the debt can work for you. it can also crush you. i do...
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it doesn't help make lowering future deficits any easier. so there are some things we need to change about the corporate tax code but in general i think we need to realize that if we set our country on the right path making the right investments in technology and education and really making sure we don't cut the necessary programs that can help us do that growth and so we have to make them a priority and perhaps deprioritize other spending areas we will be able to grow with the global economy . manufacturing has already come back to some degree i know that apple computers are actually moving a couple production facilities back to the united states from china. there's a real key is to make sure that we're continuing to invest in those types of investments and help us compete on a global scale. but we should also realize that it helps us when apple can produce their goods in china in a more cheap efficient manner than we could here because american consumers can get i pods and i phones on a much discounted basis from what it would be if we tri
it doesn't help make lowering future deficits any easier. so there are some things we need to change about the corporate tax code but in general i think we need to realize that if we set our country on the right path making the right investments in technology and education and really making sure we don't cut the necessary programs that can help us do that growth and so we have to make them a priority and perhaps deprioritize other spending areas we will be able to grow with the global economy ....
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the tax cut deal, the big fights over the budget and the debt ceiling and deficit reduction, also the bin laden raid and what happened in egypt and libya. and so i'm looking at how obama made the decisions he made and took, and why he took the actions he took in that very perilous time politically, but also explain how this is all done in a way to set up the 2012 campaign that we just went through. he had a theoryf
the tax cut deal, the big fights over the budget and the debt ceiling and deficit reduction, also the bin laden raid and what happened in egypt and libya. and so i'm looking at how obama made the decisions he made and took, and why he took the actions he took in that very perilous time politically, but also explain how this is all done in a way to set up the 2012 campaign that we just went through. he had a theoryf
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with the deficit ticking ever higher, patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us who invest in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute negotiations is talk of the $1.2 trillion of mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect today. tara mergener for cbs news, washington. >>> former president george h.w. bush is 88 years old and sent to the hospital last month in houston. he was moved into intensive care december 23rd after developing a fever. doctors say he was -- his condition is improving and he was moved to a regular room yesterday and is in good spirits. >>> looks like plastic shopping bags might be a relic of the past. >> just ahead, the final two days for the bags in an entire bay area county. >> and a look back at some of the year's big stories in the u.s. of a. we'll be right back. ,,,, . >> there is the golden gate bridge, sunny and chilly. a few clouds around. aside from that, a nice day. ,,,,,,,, ban" bandwagon... as the new year begins tuesday. . >>> one of the bay area's largeet co
with the deficit ticking ever higher, patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us who invest in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute negotiations is talk of the $1.2 trillion of mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect today. tara mergener for cbs news, washington. >>> former president george h.w. bush is 88 years old and sent to the hospital last month in houston. he was moved...
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even if a deal is reached, it is likely to be temporary with another fight over deficit reduction coming next year. market is reacting cautiously. positive in nasdaq and s&p, dow has cut losses as these bits of news trickle out. bloomberg index still trading s(ó airlines say they are always trying to improve customer service, according to one survey they$0!6 should check to see if their employees have an attitude problem. 1,000 people were asked which airline had the rudest employees, american topped the list, 25% criticizing the manner of the workersg4p, united second, followed by delta andj0a us airways. gñ a smoker and looking for a resolution, today may be good day to researchers say the best day of the with week to quit smoking is monday. monday saturday people start out fresh, they resolve to do better and focus is on health. you can resolve to quit for just a week and renew the pledge to yourself, next monday and get through the whole year without smoking. tobacco-free website says public and private health care expenditures a.m. to 96 billion dollars a year. -- amount to 90
even if a deal is reached, it is likely to be temporary with another fight over deficit reduction coming next year. market is reacting cautiously. positive in nasdaq and s&p, dow has cut losses as these bits of news trickle out. bloomberg index still trading s(ó airlines say they are always trying to improve customer service, according to one survey they$0!6 should check to see if their employees have an attitude problem. 1,000 people were asked which airline had the rudest employees,...
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. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way but the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: but senators say there is some movement on the issue. >> there's a lot of give and take going on right now but republicans don't want to see new revenues -- in other words, democrat tax increases -- be used for new spending. >> reporter: the president said if there is no deal by the end of the day, the senate should draw up legislation to extend the bush-era tax cuts for the middle class. >> there should be an up-or- down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans doesn't like it they can vote no but i think there is a majority support to make sure that middle class families are held harmless. >> reporter: the senate will be back in session in just a few hours. and even if the senate is able to pass legislation today, it still has to get through the republican-controlled house. live on capitol hill, danielle nottingha
. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way but the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: but senators say there is some movement on the issue. >> there's a lot of give and take going on right now but republicans don't want to see new revenues -- in other words, democrat tax increases -- be used for new spending....
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erased early trading deficits. on wall street. the dow finished the day down 18-points. but at one point during the session it was down 150 points. the nasdaq lost four points. and the s-and-p 500 dropped roughly two points. >> new home sales jumped in november to the highest level in more than two years. the u.s. government is reporting an increase last month of 4-point-4-percent compared to october. it's the strongest pace of new home sales since april of 20-10 the increase is due to a combination of near-record low mortgage rates, lower unemployment numbers and a drop in foreclosures -- that in turn has lifted home prices. your forecast, coming up after the break. >> the pittsburgh-based. bart station is reported that an adult male has been shot. this is a live picture from sky 7 high-definition. a couple of cars are together i am not sure if that is the suspects vehicles for a police car. there were delays in both directions. things are up to speed with a news crew on the scene there will be updates coming up at 11:00 p.m. (male announcer): now, here's stanley robert
erased early trading deficits. on wall street. the dow finished the day down 18-points. but at one point during the session it was down 150 points. the nasdaq lost four points. and the s-and-p 500 dropped roughly two points. >> new home sales jumped in november to the highest level in more than two years. the u.s. government is reporting an increase last month of 4-point-4-percent compared to october. it's the strongest pace of new home sales since april of 20-10 the increase is due to a...
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spending cuts alone are not going to be able to reduce the country's deficit. so we have that coming. senator john mccain said basically that's going to antagonize a lot of the house members and possibly jeopardize the vote. >> a lot of negotiations still need to be done. all right, tara mergener live in washington for us, thank you. >>> what a night! the weather cooperated for a spectacular night of fireworks along the waterfront right here in san francisco. beautiful view, big crowds jamming the embarcadero. when it was over the cars jammed all the streets in the area. everyone had to go home. although many are still here. new year's celebration was not 100% peaceful though. cbs 5 reporter cate caugiran here in san francisco where at least three revelers were wounded in shootings during the festivities. good morning, cate. >> reporter: good morning, frank. yeah. san francisco police are starting the new year looking for two suspects in two different shootings that injured three people. now, that first shooting happened at 10:40 last night. a victim was taken
spending cuts alone are not going to be able to reduce the country's deficit. so we have that coming. senator john mccain said basically that's going to antagonize a lot of the house members and possibly jeopardize the vote. >> a lot of negotiations still need to be done. all right, tara mergener live in washington for us, thank you. >>> what a night! the weather cooperated for a spectacular night of fireworks along the waterfront right here in san francisco. beautiful view, big...
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. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure we deal with the deficit in a serious way. but the way they're behaving is that their only provide or the is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: but senators say there is some movement on the issue. >> there's a lot of give and take going on right now. but republicans don't want to see new revenues -- in other words, democrat tax increases -- being used for new spending. >> reporter: the president has said if there is no deal by the end of the day, the senate should draw up legislation to extend the bush-era tax cuts for the middle class. >> there should be an up-or- down vote. everybody have should a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. but i actually think there's a majority support for making sure that middle class families are held harmless. >> reporter: a white house proposal to increase he is stat taxes also held up negotiations over the weekend. now, if the senate is able to come up with a bipartisan agreement today, it still has to get t
. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure we deal with the deficit in a serious way. but the way they're behaving is that their only provide or the is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: but senators say there is some movement on the issue. >> there's a lot of give and take going on right now. but republicans don't want to see new revenues -- in other words, democrat tax increases -- being used for new spending....
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unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> raising taxes could still be red ink as far as i can see and it would hurt jobs. >> reporter: some long-time lawmakers are dismayed by the perpetual gridlock. >> i feel it's more likely we'll go over the cliff than not and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of irresponsible in a long time --er responsibility. >> reporter: president obama is in hawaii. he says he will cut his vacation short to try to hammer out a deal. the deadline a week away. >> if congress does not get anything done, then taxes will most likely go up for everyone. just about everyone on january 1st. unemployment benefits will also expire for many people. >>> international envoy working to end syria's civil war worries won't be able to help. one man said bashar assad discussed possible steps forward but has made little progress because both sides seem to be more interested in fighting. >>> authorities in india used violence to stop a week of rape protests. armed p
unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> raising taxes could still be red ink as far as i can see and it would hurt jobs. >> reporter: some long-time lawmakers are dismayed by the perpetual gridlock. >> i feel it's more likely we'll go over the cliff than not and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of irresponsible in a long time --er responsibility....
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. >> more continues on the project at 25,000 white elie the lights to the deficit is caused by the bay bridge is part of the lights go to our artists villareal . >> project organizers said $8 million, privately funded project is the largest of its kind. >> about four times larger than the eiffel tower in paris. >> the project is expected to be finished on march 5th be a place for two years. >> it will be only visible from the north side of the bridge will not be visible to those driving on the bridge. >> did to it were shot and killed--one person shot and killed and one person stab to death. >> a meeting coming up with the white house as america tries to avert the fiscal cliff. plus a free ride on many. we will tell you why coming up after the break at the kron 4 morning news conreturns in two minutes. >> ,h >> overnight, three people were killed and oakland. all of them at different locations. i will have the details coming up. >> the clock is ticking for a solution in washington. we are just four days away from falling off the fiscal cliff. >> we're all so interested in the all impor
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taxes -- and the president promised in the campaign he wanted to do that -- it's to pay down on the deficit. there's no evidence of any of that. that's a major sticking point. the democrats are divided on tax rates, on the death tax, on taxes on small business and the republicans are holding firm that you actually have to deal with the number one problem in our nation which is the spending our debt. >> senator, the senate is reconvening this morning. how close are we actually to some kind of a deal here? >> i'm hoping that we get an arrangement and an agreement because the american people deserve certainty. what we ought to do is put a bill on the senate floor and let people offer amendments and vote on them. we shouldn't be here waiting for people to cut deals on back rooms. the american people ought to be able to watch the discussion and the debate and how people vote on various issues the death tax, tax rates, and how the money is going to be used because that's the big question. how are they going to use the money? >> senator, we heard president obama say in an interview that if congres
taxes -- and the president promised in the campaign he wanted to do that -- it's to pay down on the deficit. there's no evidence of any of that. that's a major sticking point. the democrats are divided on tax rates, on the death tax, on taxes on small business and the republicans are holding firm that you actually have to deal with the number one problem in our nation which is the spending our debt. >> senator, the senate is reconvening this morning. how close are we actually to some kind...
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unemployment insurance is available for 2 million people, and it lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. let us not miss this deadline. that is the bare minimum we should be able to get done. it should not be hard since democrats and republicans say they do not want to see taxes go up on middle-class families. i have to repeat -- outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern over and over again. ordinary folks -- they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership cannot do the same thing is mind-boggling to them. it needs to stop. i am modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody will get 100% of what they want. let us make sure that middle- class families and the american economy and the world economy are not adversely impacted because people cannot do their jobs. thank you very much, everybody. >> now s
unemployment insurance is available for 2 million people, and it lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. let us not miss this deadline. that is the bare minimum we should be able to get done. it should not be hard since democrats and republicans say they do not want to see taxes go up on middle-class families. i have to repeat -- outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern...